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  1. says:

    Oh frack it I’ve started and deleted and restarted this review too many times already Dan Simmons’ Ilium and Olympos have left me speechless If you ask my wife you’ll discover that’s a rare occurrence indeed I don’t think I can put together an entirely coherent review much less something with any significant insight on the author’s ideas So I’ll just share what I’m able to get out in a little solitary brainstorming sessionFirst of all you have to realize that Olympos isn’t merely the seuel to Ilium; neither book is complete without the other and I must review them together That bugs me insofar as I like the idea of a book standing on its own Preuels and seuels and subseueseuels that should be a word yes? are fine and dandy—indeed I encourage them so long as the author doesn’t screw it all up with some lazy cop out—but each book or at least the first book should be able to stand on its own Ian Tregillis’ Bitter Seeds is a good example of a book that clearly leaves the door open to be part of a larger series but stands on its own as a satisfying story I can see how Dan Simmons wanted Ilium to stand on its own how he left the story at a good place to pause but that’s all it was a good place to pause Ilium by itself simply is not a satisfying read And it’s too bad really because Ilium is fucking brilliant—I was stunned by the breadth of imagination and creativity expressed while maintaining depth and uality of character—you’ll read nothing like it I guarantee But I give it four stars because it doesn’t stand on its own Olympos gets three stars because it also doesn’t stand on its own and because it’s just not as good as Ilium which seems to be the near universal consensus if GR reviews are to be trustedAdmittedly I gave five stars to Dan Simmons’ other epic work Hyperion despite the fact that it doesn’t stand on its own Hyperion however is different and someday when I review Hyperion properly I’ll explain whySecond thing you have to realize is that Ilium and Olympos are long grueling complex at times tedious oh did I mention they’re long? Put together they are 1664 pages in paperback or 1296 in hardback I read both books on the iPhone Kindle app and let me tell you it was A LOT of page turning Still I don’t have a problem with length if it’s needed and if the story is worth it In this case the main story arc is complex enough to justify a great deal of length by itself but the author threw in sub plots and side plots that although interesting when all was said and done served to lengthen the books without adding significantly adding to the booksNow having said all that Ilium and Olympos were fascinating original creative challenging and in the end rewarding I put a lot of time and expended a good deal of mental energy into reading and understanding these books and I’m glad I did The author’s central idea around which he crafted the Ilium Universe is intriguing to say the least and presents some awesome opportunities for original world buildingview spoilerOkay I'm trying out the new embeded spoiler function here Dan Simmons' idea is that when the mental energy of some super genius writer like Homer or Shakespeare is focused sufficiently that energy pops off into a new universe where the writer's imagined story comes true So when Homer wrote the Iliad a universe popped into existence full of Greeks and Trojans fighting and killing each other When Shakespeare wrote The Tempsest that also came true in its own universe The characters from Homer's Iliad and Shakespeare's Tempest play central roles in Dan Simmons' story hide spoiler


  2. says:

    Contains spoilers towards the endThis is my least favorite bookIt's not the worst book I've ever read Manos The Hands of Fate is perhaps the worst movie I've ever seen but it's not my least favorite It takes than simple technical ineptness to rise or sink to the rank of my least favorite A least favorite work needs to commit some special crime Olympos' crime is that it took the plot threads of Ilium one of the top two or three most creative and ambitious science fiction books I've yet encountered and bungled them to an astonishing almost insulting degreeIlium as I've just said is an incredible book It's perhaps Simmons' most imaginative work so far and that's saying something In what other single book can you find posthumans posing as Greek gods on Mars intelligent machines discussing literature on the moons of Jupiter a legendary Greek hero hunting prehistoric mammals on the pampas of South America and a society of pampered partiers to whom getting devoured by an Allosaurus causes scarcely of an inconvenience than a bad hangover? And that's just the tip of that book's iceberg of wonderful and unlikely inventions All of these unusual and fascinating things are packaged into three or less distinct storylines each of them exciting purposeful and compelling I found the Caliban seuence towards the end to be a somewhat abrupt and strange change of pace but I could live with it When I put the book down I could not wait to dive into the seuelIt was badHockenberry's tale in Ilium was exhilarating Hockenberry a seemingly rather weak character through deception desperation and pure ballsiness managed the manipulate the Greeks and Trojans into turning their war against the cruel posthuman Gods He's not given anything nearly as interesting or compelling to do here In fact besides flying halfway to Earth with the Moravecs and then deciding to teleport back I don't remember him doing much of anything notable As I found his story in Ilium to be especially compelling this was a real let down Simmons instead chose to spend much of his time on the Greek side of things with Achilles and his campaign against the gods Which is unfortunate because Achilles really does not have the depth to carry such storyline weight Olympos should have stuck with the continuing story arcs from Ilium rather than focusing so much time and energy on thisBut it turns out that's what Olympos does It sidetracks It goes on tangents abandoning the story arcs that made Ilium so compelling Take Harman's storyline for example For the most part it is rather interesting and actually does contribute to the story and our knowledge of the mythos of this world However near the end of his journey his story arc veers wildly off course to focus on a wrecked submarine containing black hole bombs Where did that come from? How did that contribute in any way to the plot? What mysteries did that solve? With so many interesting possibilities in this wonderful setting why did Dan Simmons choose this non seuiter as the climactic moment for one of his main characters? It makes me want to tear my hair outThat is another thing Olympos does introduce things at the last minute We finally meet SyxoraxCirce well towards the end of the book after hearing so much about her Her scenes do nothing to explain things and in fact only serve to make it less clear exactly how the Odysseus of the Trojan war became the Odysseus that Harman and company encounter on Earth Introducing an important character like that with only a small fraction of pages left makes things feel very cramped towards the end In fact the entire last section of the book felt very rushed and crampled; I was reading the half hearted and generic epilogue almost before I even realized itI'm just getting started with the laundry list of things that frustrate me to no end about Olympos but by now I'm getting tired of typing and you may well be tired of reading so I'll keep the rest brief Major conflicts peter out to nothing Setebos who seems to be the ultimate evil of this story flees and vanishes without a fight In the final showdown between Caliban and Daemen nothing climactic happens than Caliban uttering a few of his inscrutable verses Even Zeus' demise felt meaningless and disappointing Childishly gross as well honestly And finally most of the major mysteries put forth by Ilium never get solved I still don't know how or why the Posts of Earth became the Gods of Olympos I still don't know how Odysseus ended up on Earth An explanation is put forth as to where the alternate ancient Greek Earth came from but I found it extremely weak and unsatisfying An afterthought Dan Simmons throwing up his hands and admitting that he doesn't knowSo yeah this is a rather long review But my frustration and contempt for this book has been stewing in me for years and I needed the catharsis of getting it all out in a place where others could perhaps commiserate with me Thanks for reading and may all seuels you read be better than this one


  3. says:

    MAJOR SPOILERS AHEADI have tremendous problems with this book not the least of which is that I wanted to enjoy it so badly Simmons has a talent for writing good scenes and decent characters but the overall structure of this book is so sloppy and disappointing that I can't help but feel cheated I felt this way at the end of Rise of Endymion as well and I'm starting to think that it's systemic to all of his epic sci fi narratives He comes up with a neat idea creates hint that he's going to explain everything at the end and after thousands of pages arbitrarily ends things without any sense of resolutionWhat was this book about? What was the conflict? You begin thinking that it's about the gods of Olympos and the uantum disturbances they're creating that threaten the very existence of the solar system Okay But then it turns out that the Olympian gods are pawns of larger gods or Gods including Setebos and Prospero At this point I'm enjoying the direction of the book thinking that events will hinge on what these larger gods are planning But then with a little than 200 pages left in the combined 1700 pages of IliumOlympos a heretofore unmentioned 2500 year old Islamic submarine carrying 700 mini black holes becomes the focus While the submarine is being taken care of Setebos just goes away Zeus' out of nowhere desire to become the One God of the Universe is foiled by Achilles and Hephaestus begins his reign on Olympos clearing up those pesky uantum disturbances from way back in the book as an afterthought There were so many unnecessary elements Where was Simmons' editor in all of this? You could have cut out anything to do with Sycorax and Odysseus and the narrative wouldn't have changed You could have deleted almost everything going on with the Trojans and Achaens and the only thing that would have been affected would have been Achilles killing Zeus at the end But that didn't matter either because there's no reason for the gods' storyline either They were post humans now they're gods maybe there are larger forces at play That's the sum total of the gods in the course of the storyIf I may a partial list of things that are set up but never resolved Why did Prospero want to elevate the post humans to god status? If each universe is created by singular genius wouldn't the Greek gods already exist in the universe the Trojans and Achaens come from? In fact why did the post humans choose the Iliad to recreate at all? What the hell was the point of the Titan war at the end? Why did Zeus all of a sudden want to become the One God? There's no mention of this desire anywhere in the book Who was the uiet? It's mentioned for 1000 pages and then without showing up everything is resolved when Setebos senses it coming and runs away Why didn't Daeman and Caliban get to fight when they meet at the end? Why did Hephaestus put all of the humans into a blue tachyon beam on Ilium Earth? Why were the voynix afraid of the Setebos egg?I could go on It seems like Simmons is okay with the explanation for any of these events being for some reason I guess it's deeper and ambiguous that way I don't think I'd be nearly this upset if the promise of IliumOlympos hadn't been so great I gave the first book 5 stars and I stand by that The setup was incredible The individual parts are amazing But the whole is so utterly disappointing as to make me angry


  4. says:

    I enjoyed the beginning of this book as it picks up where Ilium left off Leading up to about the middle of the book the story line is interesting and exciting And then wham Stinky turds from there on out The rest of the story is a classic example of everything I can't stand about bad science fictionNo or very little insight into the science The author just assumes you know what the ? he is talking aboutSo many people and characters interacting in blurry loops of potential meaning that go nowhere For example about 58 the way through you are introduced to a historical character named Ahman Ferdinand Mark Alonzo Khan Ho Tep Say that three times fast I'm sorry but as a reader I'm so tired of being brutalized by authors with names like this Crap like this even makes skimming irritatingCharacters reintroducedreincarnated after having their heads bitten off the only difference is now their boobs don't sagChapter 91 You get to enjoy the back seat activities of two teenage characters you've never even been introduced to Oh come on If I wanted to read this kind of shit it's all over the internet or TVI LOVED Hyperion This series isn't worth the paper it's printed on and unfortunately you'd give yourself a paper cut on your bunghole if you used this book properly


  5. says:

    It's like Simmons wanted to write a seuel to Ilium but told himself he was going to make it the exact opposite in almost every way imaginable This book was much darker in tone and much violent then the first book but it still totally worked for me None of what's in these pages should make any sense being an amalgamation of many different styles and influences as well as many characters real and imagined from history and literature but holy hell it is entertaining Almost all the characters from Ilium are back with some taking on bigger roles while others have smaller but Simmons does a great job of explaining everything and tying up loose ends Not EVERY single uestion is answered but the majority of them are enough to satisfy me and help me see what was really going on but since Simmons does not seem to be writing any Omega Canyon has been in the works for years I doubt there will be any sort of final book to wrap everything up nice and pretty Regardless these books both deserve five stars IMO


  6. says:

    didn't answer anythingthe uite one didn't show upsetebos just leftislamophobia left a bad taste in my mind


  7. says:

    If you ever plan to read the Ilium duo logy then i recommend doing it back to back I picked up Olympos 18 months after Ilium and experienced a great deal of confusion My usual go to Wikipedia let me down so i resorted to finding spoiler reviews which gave me snippets of names events and what went down I would still need to re read Ilium to fully appreciate OlymposIt continues in the same vein as Ilium with the three story lines still separate but slowly making their way to the inevitable convergence; the Moravecs and Hockenberry are investigating the uantum disturbances emanating from old Earth the Trojans and Greeks are fighting the Gods of Mount Olympos and Harman Ada and the rest of the Old Style Humans are fighting the Voynix who've turn against themMuch like his other science fiction classic Hyperion Olympos is thoroughly entertaining and packed with philosophy psychics history and likable characters My only gripe is the length as at least 100 pages could have been cut


  8. says:

    Dan Simmons' Olympos consists mainly in two threads In the one most of our various characters Harman and Daeman the moravecs Odysseus Achilles et al undertake long journeys in time and space bringing them at an unbearably slow pace towards the future Earth On these journeys they endure various ordeals of little conseuence and a great deal of nothing occurs and is described at great length and in extraordinary detail by Simmons In the other thread we are treated to pages and pages of expository monologues from Prospero Moira Harman and others as Simmons attempts to explain just what the fuck is going on and unload the enormous backstory omitted from the largely incomprehensible Ilium This exposition is heavy handed and clumsy Explanations proffered for the events we have followed and wondered about for over a thousand pages vary from merely stupid to jaw droppingly cringe inducingly idiotic Simmons repeatedly solves mysteries he has been building since the first page of Ilium in a single tossed off sentence or paragraph His explanation of the voynix complete with unnecessary and unconvincing connection to the Voynich Manuscript in particular is not just unsatisfying but infuriating while I actually had to put the book down and walk away after he tried to explain Setebos through World As Myth bullshit stolen from Robert Heinlein and mixed with New Agey uantum mysticismA word on mechanics Simmons's prose is by and large effective and deserves no special praise or blame Where the story falls is in the construction of the plot which in addition to its overall incoherence proceeds in fits and starts with long stretches of inaction punctuated by world changing events treated in brief Both gods and machines regularly serve as dei ex machinae with characters brought together on the thinnest of pretexts to haul one another out of intractable jams The novel's conclusion is full of these convenient escapes plot holes and simple omissions and several major threads are left unresolvedSimmons' fascination with juvenilia is a distraction and regularly breaks the flow of the narrative ranging from fart jokes and locker room obscenities in the mouths of Greek gods to pervasive explicit descriptions of sex including rape and thousand year old entities in 16 year old bodies and of nude bodies done throughout in a register not just clinical but often creepySimmons' literary approach to science fiction does deserve praise and is something I would like to see of He has a strong familiarity with Homer Shakespeare and Proust although I was annoyed by many egregious errors in his use of Greek Unfortunately Simmons' sometimes delightful festival of allusion is hamstrung by his failure to convincingly integrate the use of literary connections by his characters and in his backstory into the plot Both literary allusion and descriptions of sexuality carry the sense that the author feels he is getting away with something delivered with a smirk and a self congratulatory chuckle While his audaciously literate story occasionally soars it never reaches the joyful madness it could have had in the hands of a writer like Roger Zelazny of whom below or Umberto Eco someone who understood and reveled in its absurdity Simmons takes himself far too seriouslyI mention Roger Zelazny because Ilium and Olympos really demand comparison to his classic Hugo winning Lord of Light There are so many similarities between the novels — the post human nanotech infused gods recreating mythology the elaborate literary allusions the domedforcefield protected citadel on an inhospitable mountaintop the oppressed preindustrial populace reincarnating through divine machines the war between gods and men the final injection of Christianity into the conflict — that I cannot help but think Simmons is straight up lifting from ZelaznySo how do the two stories stack up? On my reading Lord of Light wins on virtually every dimension It is much much shorter at about 300 pages against close to 1800 for Ilium and Olympos together It is tightly plotted Although like Simmons' epic the story is convoluted in time it ultimately makes sense and is far better structured It is funnier and spends time enjoying its own audacity Zelazny's use of mythology Hindu and Buddhist in this case and literature is woven effectively into the structure of the novel than Simmons' bizarre combination of Homer Shakespeare and nonsense Zelazny is happy to handwave most of the science behind his creation avoiding Simmons' ad nauseum repetition of the words uantum and Calabi Yau well defined scientific terms whose meanings I don't believe Simmons understands Above all Zelazny embraced the lunacy he created Lord of Light is joyful funny occasionally insightful and always mad with none of the cringing self conscious titillation of Olympos It's simply a better novel and a enjoyable read


  9. says:

    Mind blowing adrenaline pumping world expanding science fiction at its very best Dan Simmons has big ideas and grand schemes and he is never content to simply tell a story; no he must weave it into our own reality in a seamless fashion reaching backward and forward in time and literature In this story I’m grouping the previous book Ilium into the “story” he brings together Shakespeare Homer Proust uantum teleportation terraforming robots and so much Each new bit that unfolds reveals new amazements filled with both horror and wonder I definitely recommend both Ilium and Olympos to any fan of science fiction Or GreekTrojan history Or Shakespeare Or ignore all of the connections and enjoy it for its own sake


  10. says:

    Welllll I just can't get excited about this book now that it's over After wading through 900 dense pages of literary influenced sci fi I feel a little cheated by where we ended up Harman's journey into what was supposed to be the Earth's past our future I guess was pretty dull considering the tantalizing hints Simmons drops I love the idea for example that a Global Caliphate arose sometime in the 22nd Century developed time travel and uantum spacetime science and destroyed the bulk of civilization with a virus targeted at killing non Muslims That's comedy GOLD right thereWhat's missing is the so what? Ultimately where our Earthen characters end up is so arbitrarily decided that it robs you of any real satisfaction for the closure It seems that Simmons abandons his literary template for uick resolutions and by page 800 you crave them anyway It's ultimately unsatisfying if not for the allegorical comparisons between Shakespeare Homer Virgil and other classic epic poets and those poets' effects on a future full of uantum teleportation moravecs and black holes But as fun as that can be it doesn't help move a plot anywhere Sadly there was a ton of potential in this story The fates of so many characters could have been much better handled to much satisfying ends WTF was up with that shit between Odysseus and Sycorax??? Oh well


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Olympos Author Dan Simmons

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Librarian's Note Alternate Edition with same isbn isbn 13 January 2011THE EXTRAORDINARY AND MAGNIFICENT EPIC CONCLUSION TO THE HUGO AWARD NOMINATED ILIUMBeneath the gaze of the gods the mighty armies of Greece and Troy met in fierce and glorious combat scrupulou. Contains spoilers towards the endThis is my least favorite bookIt's not the worst book I've ever read Manos The Hands of Fate is perhaps the worst movie I've ever seen but it's not my least favorite It takes than simple technical ineptness to rise or sink to the rank of my least favorite A least favorite work needs to commit some special crime Olympos' crime is that it took the plot threads of Ilium one of the top two or three most creative and ambitious science fiction books I've yet encountered and bungled them to an astonishing almost insulting degreeIlium as I've just said is an incredible book It's perhaps Simmons' most imaginative work so far and that's saying something In what other single book can you find posthumans posing as Greek gods on Mars intelligent machines discussing literature on the moons of Jupiter a legendary Greek hero hunting prehistoric mammals on the pampas of South America and a society of pampered partiers to whom getting devoured by an Allosaurus causes scarcely of an inconvenience than a bad hangover And that's just the tip of that book's iceberg of wonderful and unlikely inventions All of these unusual and fascinating things are packaged into three or less distinct storylines each of them exciting purposeful and compelling I found the Caliban seuence towards the end to be a somewhat abrupt and strange change of pace but I could live with it When I put the book down I could not wait to dive into the seuelIt was badHockenberry's tale in Ilium was exhilarating Hockenberry a seemingly rather weak character through deception desperation and pure ballsiness managed the manipulate the Greeks and Trojans into turning their war against the cruel posthuman Gods He's not given anything nearly as interesting or compelling to do here In fact besides flying halfway to Earth with the Moravecs and then deciding to teleport back I don't remember him doing much of anything notable As I found his story in Ilium to be especially compelling this was a real let down Simmons instead chose to spend much of his time on the Greek side of things with Achilles and his campaign against the gods Which is unfortunate because Achilles really does not have the depth to carry such storyline weight Olympos should have stuck with the continuing story arcs from Ilium rather than focusing so much time and energy on thisBut it turns out that's what Olympos does It sidetracks It goes on tangents abandoning the story arcs that made Ilium so compelling Take Harman's storyline for example For the most part it is rather interesting and actually does contribute to the story and our knowledge of the mythos of this world However near the end of his journey his story arc veers wildly off course to focus on a wrecked submarine containing black hole bombs Where did that come from How did that contribute in any way to the plot What mysteries did that solve With so many interesting possibilities in this wonderful setting why did Dan Simmons choose this non seuiter as the climactic moment for one of his main characters It makes me want to tear my hair outThat is another thing Olympos does introduce things at the last minute We finally meet SyxoraxCirce well towards the end of the book after hearing so much about her Her scenes do nothing to explain things and in fact only serve to make it less clear exactly how the Odysseus of the Trojan war became the Odysseus that Harman and company encounter on Earth Introducing an important character like that with only a small fraction of pages left makes things feel very cramped towards the end In fact the entire last section of the book felt very rushed and crampled; I was reading the half hearted and generic epilogue almost before I even realized itI'm just getting started with the laundry list of things that frustrate me to no end about Olympos but by now I'm getting tired of typing and you may well be tired of reading so I'll keep the rest brief Major conflicts peter out to nothing Setebos who seems to be the ultimate evil of this story flees and vanishes without a fight In the final showdown between Caliban and Daemen nothing climactic happens than Caliban uttering a few of his inscrutable verses Even Zeus' demise felt meaningless and disappointing Childishly gross as well honestly And finally most of the major mysteries put forth by Ilium never get solved I still don't know how or why the Posts of Earth became the Gods of Olympos I still don't know how Odysseus ended up on Earth An explanation is put forth as to where the alternate ancient Greek Earth came from but I found it extremely weak and unsatisfying An afterthought Dan Simmons throwing up his hands and admitting that he doesn't knowSo yeah this is a rather long review But my frustration and contempt for this book has been stewing in me for years and I needed the catharsis of getting it all out in a place where others could perhaps commiserate with me Thanks for reading and may all seuels you read be better than this one

Review Olympos Author Dan Simmons

Sly following the text set forth in Homer's timeless narrative but that was before twenty first century scholar Thomas Hockenberry stirred the bloody brew causing an enraged Achilles to join forces with his archenemy Hector and turn his murderous wrath on Zeus a. I enjoyed the beginning of this book as it picks up where Ilium left off Leading up to about the middle of the book the story line is interesting and exciting And then wham Stinky turds from there on out The rest of the story is a classic example of everything I can't stand about bad science fictionNo or very little insight into the science The author just assumes you know what the he is talking aboutSo many people and characters interacting in blurry loops of potential meaning that go nowhere For example about 58 the way through you are introduced to a historical character named Ahman Ferdinand Mark Alonzo Khan Ho Tep Say that three times fast I'm sorry but as a reader I'm so tired of being brutalized by authors with names like this Crap like this even makes skimming irritatingCharacters reintroducedreincarnated after having their heads bitten off the only difference is now their boobs don't sagChapter 91 You get to enjoy the back seat activities of two teenage characters you've never even been introduced to Oh come on If I wanted to read this kind of shit it's all over the internet or TVI LOVED Hyperion This series isn't worth the paper it's printed on and unfortunately you'd give yourself a paper cut on your bunghole if you used this book properly

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Nd the entire pantheon of divine manipulators; before the swift and terrible mechanical creatures that catered for centuries to the pitiful idle remnants of Earth's human race began massing in the millions to exterminate rather than serveAnd now all bets are off. If you ever plan to read the Ilium duo logy then i recommend doing it back to back I picked up Olympos 18 months after Ilium and experienced a great deal of confusion My usual go to Wikipedia let me down so i resorted to finding spoiler reviews which gave me snippets of names events and what went down I would still need to re read Ilium to fully appreciate OlymposIt continues in the same vein as Ilium with the three story lines still separate but slowly making their way to the inevitable convergence; the Moravecs and Hockenberry are investigating the uantum disturbances emanating from old Earth the Trojans and Greeks are fighting the Gods of Mount Olympos and Harman Ada and the rest of the Old Style Humans are fighting the Voynix who've turn against themMuch like his other science fiction classic Hyperion Olympos is thoroughly entertaining and packed with philosophy psychics history and likable characters My only gripe is the length as at least 100 pages could have been cut

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About the Author: Dan Simmons

Dan Simmons grew up in various cities and small towns in the Midwest including Brimfield Illinois which was the source of his fictional Elm Haven in 1991's SUMMER OF NIGHT and 2002's A WINTER HAUNTING Dan received a BA in English from Wabash College in 1970 winning a national Phi Beta Kappa Award during his senior year for excellence in fiction journalism and art Dan received his Master