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Infamy Pearl Harbor and its Aftermath

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  1. says:

    Were we surprised by the attack on Pearl HarborNo Were we surprised by the damage it didyes I read this book starting December 7th The 75th anniversary of the attack How fitting a day to start a book The day of World War II for the United States We knew the Kido Butai had set sail We had cracked all their codes We heard their radio dispatches Our allies even warned us based off of their intelligence Best to let the attack come to solve that isolationist problem of oursWhat we were dead wrong about was the effectiveness of the Imperial Japanese Navy We assumed the backwards oriental would be no match for us The Japanese air arm was fantastic Their pilots among the highest uality in the world Their torpedoes the dreaded Long Lance was the finest and set to run easily in the shallow waters of Pearl Harbor The bomb that smashed through and detonated the magazine of the ARIZONA was a falling battleship round Their Navy specially trained to sail in stormy conditions and night time would continue to deal death and destruction in the Solomons and other areas Japan would be defeated but it would be a Long Island hopping war It would end in Atomic fireballs Pearl Harbor was the result of arrogance No one would dare attack us The US is far too powerful Have we heard this before? I am still amazed to this day to live on Ford Island epicenter of the attack I actually have bullet holes in front of my house I wonder if the pilot survived what was to comeRest In Peace sailors and Marines from Pearl Harbor

  2. says:

    This book is not much about the Japanese 'surprise' attack on Pearl Harbor It is about the several hearings about who was responsible for US military on the island being unprepared for the attackThe mainstream view is that army commander Short and naval commander Kimmel as well as their commands in the Army and Navy were genuinely surprised such indications of Japanese intentions as were known having been tied up lost or misdirected in the weeks days and hours before the attack Toland's view amply documented herein and in agreement with such earlier revisionists as Charles Beard is that a number of persons high up in the US military and civilian command including the president were well aware that a Japanese attack was imminent and decided not to forewarn Short and Kimmel so as to galvanize domestic support against the Japanese aggressor and to ensure entry into the European war as well Further but without much argument Toland suggests that the Pacific war might have been entirely avoided at least so far as the USA was concernedWhile I generally enjoy Toland this book was a bit tedious as here he is arguing a case and so doing he amasses a heck of a lot of detail in order to be convincing The arguments are therefore strong but the narrative flow suffers

  3. says:

    The accepted theory of the surprise attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor which plunged the US into WWII is that it indeed was a surprise Pulitzer Prize winner John Toland tells us that it may not have been exactly as we have believed all these years and that the hierarchy in Washington including President Roosevelt were aware it was coming and did not warn the Pearl Harbor Army and Navy commanders Short and KimmelToland has done an immense amount of research and was often stonewalled by the authorities as he searched records and communications which proved that there was to the surprise element than was reported It was a convoluted operation that would allow the Japanese to strike the first blow allowing the US to declare war which would then also bring the country into the European conflict which was the prime objective Confused?it certainly smacks of conspiracy theory but Toland presents very conclusive evidence that Short and Kimmel were sacrificial lambs and that the governmentmilitary were well aware that the attack was about to take placeThe book concentrates mainly on the commissions and hearings that were held after the end of the war and it is extremely detailed with much testimony uoted verbatim That tends to slow down the narrative uite a bit but is still fascinating Several careers were ruined and politics played a major part in the conclusions of those hearings But there is no denying that there is something very wrong about the use of the word surprise when speaking of the Pearl Harbor attack Toland convinced me

  4. says:

    Since I have been reading books about the attack on Pearl Harbor for decades I was aware of this book Infamy Pearl Harbor and its Aftermath by John Toland practically since it was published I couldn't remember whether I had already read it And because it was published in 1984 I wondered if it would be worth reading or re reading since so many books have been published since based on newly released information But upon further scrutiny I realized that where most books on this topic present details about the military planning and execution as well as readiness to attack or defend Infamy is mostly focused on what happened to the military leaders in Hawaii after the attacks For example General Stark who commanded the Army forces and Admiral Kimmel who was in charge of the Naval forces were both immediately let go from their commands and the overall blame for the failures that allowed such horrendous loss of lives and euipment Even though they were not provided with the latest intelligence that was known in Washington that may have led them to take defensive action The author presents this as a cover up and a way to foist the blame on the commanders in Hawaii and protect the leaders in the capitol Although Kimmel and Stark were threatened with court marshal it didn't happen because what was known when and by whom would have to come out So they were forced into retirement Later in the book and years after the attack Kimmel and Stark were able to force a court marshal so that they had the opportunity to call witnesses and testify themselves in an attempt to clear their names Much came out during these hearings and court testimony that exposes the way they appeared to have been scapegoated and took the blame when it probably belonged much higher up including perhaps Roosevelt himself If you've read many books about the Pearl Harbor attacks but not this one you might want to consider adding it

  5. says:

    So we all know the basics of Pearl Harbor right? On December 7 1941 that “date that will live in infamy” the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor taking it totally by surprise and killing thousands and also launching the US into World War IIOnly what if that wasn’t exactly what happened? What if FDR knew that the Japanese would be attacking Pearl Harbor but didn’t pass that information along to the commanders there? Why on earth would he do that you ask? Perhaps he saw Japan developing as a power that would threaten Western civilization yet felt the American public neither fully appreciated this threat nor were prepared to go to war against it But if that power attacked them in a major way — they might then support going to warThat’s the premise of “Infamy” and it’s not just John Toland’s speculation; he backs it up with various committee hearings and reports none of which are common knowledge today at least that I know ofAnd there is plenty here to read officers’ changed testimonies tales of FDR telling relatives at dinner on December 6 that we would be going to war the next day etc Upon hearing of FDR’s death General MacArthur comments “”Well the Old Man has gone; a man who never told the truth when a lie would suffice”Despite this book being filled with dozens of commanders and military high ups most of which I never could keep straight I found it fascinating to peer back into history and contemplate that much of what we “know” may in reality be far from the truth

  6. says:

    While Toland does write interestingly this is another case of revisionist history which seeks to bring up conspiracy and is made of flimsy material I'm not interested in finishing it I do feel bad for the families of Kimmel and Short the two men which Toland attempt to exonerate from being involved in favor of Washington conspiring against Pearl Harbor

  7. says:

    Very in depth book about the true events surrounding the tragedy in Pearl Harbor A must read for any one with an interest in the events around WWII Pearl Harbour could have EASILY been avoided and it's not as easy as pointing the finger at one person

  8. says:

    The December 7 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor was hardly over before the public began to wonder how the US could have been caught so unawares The Roberts Commission investigation Dec 18 1941 to Jan 23 1942 concluded that General Short Army and Admiral Kimmel Navy were derelict in their duty and blamed them But almost immediately uestions arose about facts that didn't add up By the end of May 1946 a total of 9 investigations had taken place with differing and alternating conclusions each time and yet uestions still abound today John Toland looks at each of the investigations and discusses the evidence and testimonies presented He focuses on a large amount of evidence that many in Washington knew beforehand that an attack was imminent and also that it would occur at Pearl Harbor Some evidence pinpointed the exact date and other evidence the location of the missing Japanese fleet He even presents communications that foreign dignitaries passed on information and that those in top levels of American government had than enough knowledge beforehand that could have prevented or at least minimized the attack The only ones who knew almost nothing were Short and KimmelThis book was originally published in 1982 so it's possible there may be newer information and apparently it is a bit controversial in its conclusions Toland claims that Admiral Stark Chief of Naval Operations and General Marshall War Dept Chief of Staff in Washington had enough corroborated information that at a minimum a clear warning should have been sent to the commanders in Hawaii He speculates that part of the reason they might not have intervened was because they didn't want the Japanese to know the US had broken their code and were reading all their messages but he also presents evidence that the Japanese suspected as much And while he doesn't directly condemn President Roosevelt he certainly casts a shadow by claiming that FDR also had access to the information He cites speculation that FDR allowed the attack to happen as a way to win support from the American public over half of which opposed intervention into the war in Europe but his criticism seems somewhat mutedAlthough this book is nearly 350 pages it's a much uicker and easier read than that number might suggest It was also interesting than a dry and detailed accounting of the investigations might sound Toland obviously places an emphasis on exonerating Kimmel and Short but does a good job piecing together the chronology of the intelligence that was gathered and known in the weeks and days leading up to the attack he doesn't cover the attack itself He discusses those who changed their testimonies as well as the documents which appear to have disappeared such as the infamous winds message For the most part Toland keeps the information from becoming overly tedious but the main difficulty I had was with the VERY extensive Cast of Principal Characters They are listed at the beginning of the book but my interest was casual and I didn't make the effort to keep everyone as straight as I might have Still I found it to be an interesting read and disappointing to know that maybe there was infamy behind the scenes than we were led to believe

  9. says:

    Yes the United States did foresee war with Japan during WWIIAdmiral JO Richardson The admiral said he was going to tell a story that the lieutenant could regard as a parable Assume Richardson said you were the leader of the greatest nation in the world and assume that you saw in another hemisphere the development of a power which you regarded and with reasonable support as a total threat to Western civilization as you knew it Supposing however for various reasons your conception of the danger was not shared by your constituents your own people And you saw the total destruction of western civilization in the hands of this adversary and your detected in your own people at the time on the basis of everything they knew a lack of appreciation of the problem Assume you saw that the only salvation of Western civilization was to repel this particular power but that reuired you to enter a foreign war for which your people were not psychologically or militarily prepared Assume that what was needed to galvanize your own people for a unified approach towards this basic danger to civilization was an incident in which your posture was clearly of passive non aggression and apparent unpreparedness; and the incident in uestion was a direct act of aggression which had no excuse or justification Assume that you saw this potentiality developing on the horizon and it was the solution to the dilemma as you saw it of saving civilization and galvanizing your own people It is conceivable is it not that you might be less disposed to create a situation in which there might be no doubt as to who struck the first blowIt's a fable You just think about that fable as you study some of this material And it's conceivable that it might have some enlightening factorsThat about explains the United States allowing the Japanese to attack her

  10. says:

    It was a surprise to me just how suspicious FDR's political opponents Republicans were about who knew what and when about the attack on Pearl Harbor right from the beginning Contrary to my previous beliefs the country was hardly unified in going to war even after Pearl Harbor and that uestions were asked as to how the upper reaches of the administration could not have known SOMETHING was going to happen Japan really was egged on into war The 'winds execute' messages were picked up but no action was taken and the officers on the ground at Pearl Harbor were made the fall guys This would make a great movie but who wants to tarnish the event that made 'the greatest generation' great? There would be no takers for this tale in Hollywood As for the writing it was tough at times with many names to keep track of and not much narrative flow Not Toland's best but an eye opener and well worth your time and a must for WWII history readers